Arriving 3/23/11

Oh, I forgot to put this up yesterday, didn't I? I guess that is what happens when the order form is due. Well, in deference to the esteemed Mr. Lester (And Abhay's awesome interfight!), hidden behind the jump....

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Wait, What? Ep. 32.1: (Jason) Aaron & Ahmed

Photobucket So I did my best to wait until Hibbs posted the shipping list, but I can just tell that no matter when I set this thing to post, he's going to write something that will take up the whole homepage five minutes later...which is certainly his prerogative, and typically preferred.

But I did want to tell you that, should you be interested, the first part of Episode 32 is up on iTunes and in it Graeme and I talk Punisher Max #11, Aaron & Ahmed, Wolverine #6, the last ten or so issues of Captain America, James Robinson's two Jimmy Olsen Specials from the other year, and a bunch of other stuff. Should you choose, you can listen to it here:

Wait, What? Ep. 32.1: (Jason) Aaron and Ahmed

Next installment should be up in a day or so and, as always, we hope you enjoy!

Creator vs. Critic-- Abhay interviews Mark Sable about SECRET AVENGERS Issues #1 to #5

COMIC CREATORS! COMIC CRITICS! NATURAL ENEMIES SINCE THE VERY DAWN OF TIME!An enmity forged in the fires of Malice! Born to hate, living to die, dying to love, but loving to fury-- a fight that can only end one way: in the squared octagon.

A SQUARED OCTAGON MADE UP OF LENGTHY BLOCKS OF DULL TEXT THAT WE CALL...

CREATOR VS. CRITIC.

In the CREATOR corner, hailing from the mean streets of Hollywood, California-- Mark Sable... author of GROUNDED, HAZED, TWO FACE YEAR ONE, CYBORG, TEEN TITANS: COLD CASE, WHAT IF SPIDER-MAN DID SOMETHING OR ANOTHER THAT I'M SURE WAS VERY INTERESTING, FEARLESS, and/or RIFT RAIDERS. Mark's next book is GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES from Image Comics, with Paul Azaceta (AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, BPRD 1956, POTTERS FIELD, WATCHMEN, GOOD WILL HUNTING, LEGEND OF THE OVERFIEND). You can also see a limited-animation cartoon that Mark wrote for the movie SUCKERPUNCH online now.

In the CRITIC corner, weighing in at 160 pounds, with most of that weight in the cock, ladies, if you catch my drift (my drift being that I'm a very sad person, and I cry a lot)... you know, me. Abhay. Hey. Hello. WRITER of ... well, I wrote a pretty gnarly comment the other day on youtube. I was pretty proud about that. You can soon see Abhay in an overcoat at a theatre playing SUCKERPUNCH, recklessly pleasuring himself.

In this our inaugural Winter Edition, in what we're hoping will be a year-long battle but we'll probably get fed up with each other and/or lazy and quit before a year is up... the arena is "MODERN MAINSTREAM COMICS" and the comic at issue will be...

SECRET AVENGERS

Issues #1 through 5.

"Secret Histories"

Author: Marvel Comics, with the assistance of its employees and/or independent contractors Ed Brubaker, Mike Deodata, Rainier Beredo, Dave Lanphear, Lauren Sankovitch, David Aja, Michael Lark, Stefano Guadiano, Jose Villarrubia, Mayela Guitterez, Will Conrad, Irene Lee, Tom Brevoort, and Joe Quesada.

BUT FIRST... A DISCLAIMER FROM MARK SABLE: As a creator working – for the most part - in the mainstream, it’s hard for me to comment critically on mainstream comics. It’s a small industry. And – I’m sure you have no experience whatsoever with this, but creators can be a bit sensitive. I don’t exclude myself from that category. Nor do I think I can do better than anyone associated with this book or any other we might comment on. I say that not because I want you to feel bad for me. This is just a way of apologizing to creators/editors/publishers in advance to save my own ass. And to a lesser extent apologize to your readers if I hold back. The point of this, from my end, is to see if I can do what Matt Fraction and Joe Casey did with “The Basement Tapes” – see if a creator can speak critically about comics in the mainstream while working in the mainstream. That, and to plug the shit out of my work.

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ABHAY:  Let's start with the premise. This appears to be a comic about a secret political violence arm of the Avengers, which seems to be a recurring thing right now in the marketing material for Marvel comics. My understanding at least is that JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY is being sold as Loki or Thor's secret political assassination team; X-FORCE was sold as the X-Men's secret political assassination team; KOSHERSTRYKE is supposed to be about Peter Porker, Spider-Ham's secret political assassination team.

So, Mark Sable, speaking on behalf of all comic creators, everywhere, ever: what's with you people and the fucking assassination teams?

I mean, is there anything worth examining about that impulse of having children's characters form death squads? "What if Oliver North trained the GOOF TROOP to be a death squad during the Salvadoran Civil War?" Why does raping nuns and murdering peasants seem goofy to you, Mark? Or do you disagree with the whole "these are children's characters" premise because ... I'm not even 100% sure about that one anymore.

MARK: As I recall, those kinds of books were born in the 90s with X-Force, as a response to the Charles Xavier’s dream of co-existence peaceful co-existence or whatever. And, more likely, as a response to the market’s (perceived) demand for darker, edgier material. I see Secret Avengers, though, as being more of a product of creators, myself included, who love crime and espionage. Some of whom would rather just be writing straight crime or espionage, but the only way they can tell the kind of story they want in a commercially viable way is to tell it in a superhero context. I think it’s been more successful creatively with crime than espionage. Gotham Central was a better book than Checkmate, for example.

To throw the question back to you– can espionage work in comics? I ask whether straight espionage can work because I’m not sure superhero-espionage can. There’s something inherently gaudy about superheroes that seems to work against it. Secret Avengers starts with Black Widow and Valkyrie posing as escorts trying to gather information from a businessman in Dubai. Before you know it, Steve Rogers is swinging through the window in a Fury-esque outfit with a big star on it and a laser shield. So it’s like the characters themselves can’t even maintain the charade of espionage for more than a couple of pages.

It’s an odd choice for me too to have Steve Rogers lead a black ops team in the first place, him being the moral compass of the Marvel Universe. Of course…in my mind, the fact that Captain America has a code against killing is absurd in and of itself. He’s a soldier, and that’s what soldiers do.

And yes, I absolutely disagree with the whole “these are children’s character’s premise.” Well, let be a bit more specific. They are children’s characters so far as merchandising goes. I think it was Tom Brevoort who pointed out that most kids are introduced to superheroes not in comics, but in the more kid friendly areas of animation and toys. And that’s where the real money is made in this business. Other than toy stores, the only place these characters are safe for kids is in the childhood memories of older fans. Or, let’s at least be honest. Let’s say that the arbitrary restrictions put on what superheroes can and cannot are in place to keep the brand of a movie franchise or a toy line unsullied. Let’s admit that, for the most part, there aren’t valid character reasons why certain heroes don’t kill. In a way it’s dangerously dishonest not to show that permanent death is the logical outcome of violence.

As much as superhero black-ops teams might not work for me, they do tap into something. Much of the wars we’re in are fought covertly. We sort of half-ass wars, for the most part. By which I mean…we don’t use overwhelming force, and we only ask a small number of people to sacrifice. Take the drone strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. We’re quietly – meaning without much media attention - using our overwhelming force in way that doesn’t incur losses on our side but helps keeps the other side fighting because it creates more insurgents.

Maybe a book like Secret Avengers reflects that. The big guns of the Marvel Universe are sent in to deal with a problem. They never die, so the reader isn’t asked to sacrifice their enjoyment of reading their continuous adventures. The villains don’t die either, so the conflict and the story is perpetuated.

ABHAY: See, my recollection is that X-FORCE was about a band of soldiers who philosophically disagreed with the X-MEN, but that the X-MEN didn't ratify their conduct. There'd be those scenes of Storm saying shit like "We disapprove of your methods, Cable. I'm so angry I'm going to change my haircut!" But my impression of SECRET AVENGERS and these other books is that they're about the "heroes" ... acting "unheroically" when they think no one is looking...?

Does that taint them? Set aside kids. Forget about kids. On the one hand, some people say superheros are great because they show how we can create characters that our better than ourselves, characters that always do the right thing. These are fairy tale characters, and the fact they're not like us is something that's right about them. But of course, there's a competing argument, that characters should just be characters, as flawed as anyone, and not moral exemplars. Which ... I know anytime I hear a comic creator talk about the morals in their story... I'm going to take life instruction from a fucking comic book writer?

Where do you think you wind up on that? I guess having read so many Superman comics last year, right this second I'm more aligned with the former. I'm not really interested in "realistic" superheros at the moment. You know-- some people like to say SUPERMAN is "boring," but being a fairy tale character hasn't really hurt DOCTOR WHO any...?

Anyways, does espionage "work" in comics? Well, I mean, I don't think there's any genre where I can't think of some successful people. Even the Superhero spy-hybrid comic-- I think an awful lot of those owe a debt to Jon Ostrander & Kim Yale's SUICIDE SQUAD, which I remember liking though it's been some years. Certainly, Naoki Urasawa can do espionage-- I think of MONSTER as his espionage thriller, so certainly. But that's... You know, bringing up Urasawa is a little unfair. It's like saying, "Can you do a great comic about a lettuce monster getting veggie-boners for some rando girl with white hair?" Yeah, Alan Moore did that comic, but I don't know if that means I'd recommend it to everybody-- most people sure as hell ain't Alan Moore. (Is that okay to say? If you need to get all Jason Aaron, and tell me to fuck myself, go ahead and do you...)

Urasawa is a perfect example of that-- he can do so much with expressions that American dudes can't. There are "big name" artists in the North American industry who can't draw a human face worth looking at, let alone pull off what Urasawa does with facial expressions. I mean, maybe someday Marvel Comics will hire Greg Land to re-draw MONSTER, but ... Oh, awesome, I think I just tasted my own vomit.

MARK: There isn’t a right and a wrong way to write superhero characters. There’s being true to your own personal philosophy, to the reader, and in the case of corporate characters to their owners.

Putting the latter two aside, when I hear you saying that superheroes are moral exemplars, it brings classical tragedy to mind. The Greeks and Shakespeare wrote about nobles because they were the supposed to represent the best of what mankind had to offer. Like superheroes, they were invested with history and godliness as well as humanity. And yet, in spite of, or perhaps because of those qualities, they were doomed to failure and death. The implication being that, if the best of us were bound for a tragic end, than us ordinary theatergoers had no hope. Accepting that inevitable, was, believe it or not, supposed to be cathartic.

For me personally, those stories are the most true. By having our heroes live in perpetuity we’re not being entirely honest with the audience about the nature of existence. Of course, that’s my worldview, and I don’t try to impose it on a mainstream audience, if for no other reason than I most often can’t.

Doctor Who seems very different from American superheroes. He’s immortal, but he’s very conscious of the mortality of all the other beings around him. As supporting characters have pointed out, people close to him die, and his awareness of that adds a tragic depth to his character. We don’t get to see that with Superman because we don’t get to see him outlive Lois Lane in continuity. The best stories, from Whatever Happened to The Man of Tomorrow to All Star Superman, have always been Elseworlds tales. And the more resonant Captain America stories deal with what he’s lost from being a man out of time.

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ABHAY:The first issue starts with a joke about Valkyrie suggesting that she pulled a sword out of her own pussy.

I think we both like black humor. I think neither of us are prudes. But I always feel really weird when I see that kind of joke in a mainstream comic, like... I mean, not full-on Holden Caufield "You hypocrites wrote the f-word near kids on a cliff" weird but... Man, I don't know where the line is anymore. Like, I'm really genuinely enjoying that comic OSBORN right now, no-joke, thinks it's an interesting piece of work (and I had wanted to never read about that character ever again, ever, ever, ever). But the first issue of that had a fellatio joke in it that I had a similar feeling of... "You're allowed to have jokes about dick-sucking in Green Goblin comics now?" I don't feel offended by the joke-- just confused and old and highly prone to premature ejaculation, which is I guess how most jokes make me feel, to be perfectly honest.

MARK: Osborn is book I’m enjoying as well. Hell of a creative team, that DeConnick and Rios. I didn’t pick up on any fellatio jokes, which either means it was appropriate in the context of that book or I’ve been numbed by Batman peeing on people.

As a creator, the line for sexual content is wherever your particular editor tells you it is at that particular time. And to a certain extent whatever your own feelings are about it. I’m not going to get outraged about kids reading sex jokes because I don’t believe kids are reading comic books in significant numbers, and I don’t think the place to chase that demo is with superhero books. Teenagers probably know more about sex from personal experience than most creators. They gravitate towards the forbidden and the prurient, they are the ones that will probably most appreciate the old pull the sword from your vagina trick (if Fiona Apple had continued to date David Blaine I would like to think she could have pulled that off).

I don’t have an issue with sex unless it’s sexist or violent or both. Unless it’s really, really funny. Again, it comes back to honesty for me. I think comics, and really pop culture in general, does a disservice in the way it portrays sex. It either hides it or shows it as the perfect meshing of perfect bodies. I would love love LOVE to see a book that showed unhealthy looking people fumbling and getting hurt emotionally and sticking things in the wrong hole. That would prepare teens for sex much better than any kind of sex-ed would. I actually think if kids saw how bad sex could get it would lead to abstinence. The closest I can recall a recent mainstream comic approaching that kind of honesty was Ultimate Spider-Man. Bendis took it in the direction he believed was true to the character and consistent with whatever editorial/ corporate let him do, and I admire him for that. Me? I would have liked to push it further. You would have seen Peter and MJ have bad sex, and agree to go back to hand jobs and finger-banging.

Now, what I want to do and what I can do at the place I’m at in my career are of course two different things. I can’t push things very far in my work-for hire material.

ABHAY: But isn't there still such a thing as good taste and bad taste that exists independent of the question of what kids might or might not read? Do you think bad taste is just a question of if kids might find it or not? You know-- if there was an episode of CHARLIE ROSE where Charlie talked to Michael Lewis about how much they both love period sex, sure, probably kids wouldn't watch that either. Kids don't really watch CHARLIE ROSE. But... again: I think that would be in bad taste. Awesomely so in that case, educationally so, but... Or like, have you ever seen old Playboy cartoons? There are a few artists that I enjoy-- Erich Sokol, say. But I can't stand most of them. It's not  that they're not well drawn, even. There's something actively gross about them. They make me feel gross, those jokes because they speak to ... They speak to the Horrible World of Men.

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I would use those Playboy strips as an example that... Those are jokes that kids won't see, and aren't intended for kids, but we can still look at them and say they're in bad taste. But what's in "Bad taste" depends on context so... Maybe this argument is circular...

But more importantly: why do you know who is and isn't dating David Blaine? Where the fuck did that come from? I don't think I"ve thought about David Blaine for several consecutives years-- which, according to David Blaine, might qualify as MAGIC. I never realized you were connected to the World of Illusion before-- I have so many questions. Who is Doug Henning dating, these days???

MARK: For those readers too young to remember, Doug Henning was a homosexual magician who passed away in 2000. Before he died Henning and Transcendental Meditation founder, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "drafted plans for a $1.5 billion-dollar project called Maharishi Veda Land near Niagara Falls, Ontario that would combine astonishing, unique visual and sensory effects, state-of-the-art 3D imagery, and ultra high-tech entertainment technology with his best and most original magic illusion secrets. Maharishi Veda Land was conceived as a magical Himalayan setting where visitors would be wowed with theatrical presentations of ancient Vedic stories and the deepest secrets of the universe, while ingesting organic vegetarian burgers and snacks. Attractions were to include a building suspended above water and a journey into the heart of a rose."

So, basically, Doug Henning is your dead, gay son.

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ABHAY: I was interested by the fact this comic spent a page in its fourth issue, the exciting climax of the arc, on Captain America giving Nova his head-gear back.

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Let's set aside questions about padding because... I think we both know padding happens. I'm judgmental about it, but maybe not reasonably so:  successful writers tend to have multiple books they're shepherding, meaning maybe not every page gets lavished with attention. And so maybe a certain amount of padding is inherent to the system.

But setting that aside: is there anything interesting that could have really happened on that page? Captain America is in a dozen different books right now. I think Nova is in other books, too. Can this book have its own character-driven subplots? The classic Claremont formula of high-action and character-driven soap opera subplots seems dead in the post-New-Avengers era. Can anything interesting happening to those characters when all of the noteworthy characters star in so many different books simultaneously? (Not including a crossover or coming off of a crossover, where Marvel can explicitly say "You must read this.")  Wolverine might star in three dozen comics but can he really DO anything people will care about besides wave his claw-hands at people in those books, without it creating an inconsistency that would derail 35 other books?

And as a result, a book like SECRET AVENGERS-- it's all explosions from cover to cover, but when those explosions are over, the characters have nothing left to discuss any longer other than their fucking haberdashery. Is that a natural consequence of these characters being so totally over-extended?

MARK: Why should we avoid the question of padding? I can’t tell from the outside who’s doing it. I mean, I can guess. But it’s not something I would accuse someone of.

That said, let me give you an example from my own career. I pitched a two issue arc on a major title. I was then asked to do that same as a six issue mini-series. As a freelancer just coming into the business, what should I have done in that situation? Turn down four extra issues? Turn down the whole project? For those of us without exclusive contracts, that’s asking a lot. In my case, I rethought the pitch and I was able to justify writing the six issues. But looking back, I still might have padded it subconsciously. There were fights and misdirects and guest stars that didn’t need to be there. I’ve given a lot of thought to how I could’ve made that particular mini better. I think I could’ve trusted more in the story and the character and not relied on those crutches.

Has anyone every questioned that being paid by the page is not the best incentive for writers? For artists, I get it – there’s much more of a limit to what they can do. But if you paid writers by the story? I bet we’d have less padding and decompression. Of course, there’s also something inherent in the way stories are written now that leads to padding. You can call it writing for the trade, but I think it’s more writing for larger three act structure. If you’ve got to tell a story nowadays, you need 4-6 issues, and most artists are only willing to do 4-5 panels per page panels. But because you are writing in single issues, you’ve got to put in artificial cliffhangers and exposition. Maybe things would be better if we went straight to trade.

Getting back to Secret Avengers, let’s actually think what could have happened. Cap could refuse to give back the Nova helmet. Maybe he wears it himself, maybe he just doesn’t think Richard Ryder’s worthy of it. Valkyrie could have stored the helmet in her vagina until a new Nova candidate is found worthy. In fact, I like to think that’s where the missing Serpent Crown is. But yeah, it’s hard to contemplate an ending that fundamentally and permanently alters the status quo for any of those characters. That’s the nature of a soap opera with no end. At least in real life, actors die, so there has to be some change. I don’t think there’s any meaning in a story without change.

The better writers in mainstream comics provide the illusion of change, which is I think what fans really want. And let’s give credit where credit is due. Marvel in general and Brubaker in particular have been pretty good of late delivering extended periods of change. Bucky/The Winter Soldier has worked for far longer than it had any right to. More than the actual Civil War, I liked that Marvel ran with the superhero registration thing for as long as they did. Same thing with status quo change that Dark Reign wrought.

Maybe in all those cases, you are just playing out long second acts. But I appreciate that Marvel had the courage to play that change – illusory or not – out for extended periods of time.

ABHAY: Maybe you need 4-6 issues to tell a simple story if you're not willing to use 3rd-person narration, or thought baloons, or lenticular effects, or fenced splashes, or sound effects, or those Frank Miller TV panels, or color-coded panels like in that one Dash Shaw story "Satellite CMYK" (which is a good one if you've never read it), or ... or Crypt-Keeper-style host characters or... But all those things exist. All those things were invented already. This isn't the first generation of comic writers, we're watching. People have just walked away from decades of tools that have existed in comics, that were amassed over years.

I'm very undecided on the long second acts because I think they're at the expense of letting creators have their own storylines for extended periods. They're neat in theory because it really does create a history for the Marvel Universe... But I don't know that they've ever successfully justified the costs imposed both on readers and just ... the long-term costs involved in not allowing great runs to stand on their own.

MARK: I’m in agreement with you about creators walking away from the techniques you mentioned. I actually think some of them would make comics MORE accessible to non-readers. Comics are incredibly more confusing than they’ve ever been, and it’s not just because of continuity. Storytelling is at a real low, to the point I sometimes don’t know where my eye should go on a page, and I’ve been reading comics for decades. Hell, I was looking at old Avengers comics where, if it wasn’t clear which panel you were supposed to go to next, someone drew an arrow. I’d be embarrassed if an editor did that to my work, but I’d rather someone feel my comic was overly expository or on the nose than not understand it. That’s no fun for anyone.

To be fair, though…you can't always ask an artist to draw a page of 16 Frank Miller TV sets in your average monthly comic. It’s more time consuming work for them. The same goes for some of the other techniques.

I’ve had both positive and negative experiences with crossovers events, which is what you’re basically describing. That’s always going to depend on the generosity of the other creators in and the flexibility of the editors in giving you the freedom and the space to tell your own story. As a reader I’m as sick of them as everyone else is, and the two examples cited were exceptions, because most are awful reading experiences and creative pains in the ass.

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ABHAY: Why does Marvel keep trying to make fucking MOON KNIGHT happen? I mean, I guess we all have weird shit we're just into. You have your weird thing about Cyborg. I have my weird thing about Lexi Belle. But Moon Knight's really pretty fucking shitty...

MARK: I don’t have a weird thing about Cyborg. It’s hard to get the reins on an A-list character, and if you do, you’re not going to get the freedom to put your stamp on it in the same way as a D-lister. Sandman, Starman, Animal Man…no way editorial would’ve let Gaiman, Robinson and Morrison take those kinds or risks on Superman or Batman in cointinuity.

That said…Cyborg is one of the better crafted and under-utilized characters in DC’s stable. He came out of that same period when the last new, successful characters were being created by the Big Two, along with Wolverine, The Punisher etc. I don’t think I did the character justice.

I’d imagine creators gravitate towards characters like Moon Knight out of nostalgia. I guess the Bill Sienkiewicz and Doug Moench runs were in the current generation’s formative years. Moon Knight wasn’t on my radar like that. Moon Knight is also “gritty”, so he lends himself to the kind of crime or espionage stories that I suspect some writers would rather be telling. He looked pretty damn silly on Mars. Then again, there’s something silly about him anyway. A Jew who gets his powers from an Egyptian god? And I can’t be the only person to think he looks like a Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

Occasionally the 2nd or 3rd tier characters do work out, if not commercially than creatively. They don’t have to be at the level of Star-/Sand-/Animal Man. But the Iron Fist run that Brubaker and Fraction did was fantastic. The fact that it apparently couldn’t be sustained commercially is depressing to me. What’s more depressing – and more troublesome – is that if big time creators can’t revive 2nd tier characters, then they aren’t going to take the risk, or get the chance to take the risk of creating new ones. It’s a bigger topic, but it’s terribly disappointing to me that we don’t see new characters created within the big two anymore.

I don’t know where to place the blame. I know that the publishers aren’t willing to give new characters the long term support they need to really see if there’s something there. I understand their mandate is to maintain their trademarks. That’s why creators are getting a crack at 2nd tier characters in the first place – to give them a fresh coat of paint and see if maybe there’s a movie there. Congress keeps bending over and extending copyrights to the point we’re unlikely to see characters created before our birth wind up in the public domain. But I still think it’s in the Big Two’s long term interest to develop new IP, if nothing else. Especially now that they are both de facto R&D divisions of massive multi-media conglomerates. But paying down the national debt and dealing with global warming are in the long term interest, so comics is not exactly alone in kicking the can down the road.

ABHAY: There are Marvel characters who people have managed to put a "stamp" on-- but it seems like lately, they take these shitty characters and then rather than have a "stamp," they try to convince fans that these characters are "important." You know: making Brother Voodoo into Sorceror Supreme-- it's still Brother Voodoo. "Moon Knight is a Double-Secret Avenger now" -- he's still Moon Knight. Sandman, Starman and Animal Man-- those were takes. Those were... those were ground-up reinventions. The Marvel version, by comparison, just seems like wishful thinking, that something that's failed repeatedly won't fail if you stick the right combination of words into the marketing material. You know: NAMOR GUANTLET, X-MAN WITHOUT FEAR... It's still Namor.

IRON FIST... That was a frustrating run. For me, it didn't really have an ending. I was never super-super-excited about it like some people, but that was a book I was following and enjoying it well enough. You know: highs and lows, strikes and gutters. But when it stopped... I felt they had just gotten done finally building this entire world for that character, and then as soon as it was built, it was over. It was like watching someone build a city in Sim City and then not send in Gojira... I mean, that game came with a Gojira button...

MARK: There is a distinction between the way Marvel and DC revive back a character. You’ve got to chalk some of that up to brave editors like Archie Goodwin. But I think there’s also something inherently different about the two universes. To put it bluntly, Marvel continuity counts more. That will probably piss off DC fans, who no doubt care about continuity just as much, but DC retcons things in a major way that Marvel doesn’t. What happened in Marvel comics pretty much happened, you just need to ignore things like Professor X fighting in Korea with Dick Witman. With DC…there’s a crisis of one kind or another that periodically resets everything.

With Iron Fist, I don’t know the circumstances behind the demise of the book, so I’m not sure it’s fair to criticize them for walking away from it. In fact, I think you have to give credit to creators like Fraction and Brubaker who create new characters and leave them for someone else to play with. The next arc of Secret Avengers uses the Prince of Orphans, right? As a writer, I appreciate when other creators share their creations.

There’s been a decent amount of that at Marvel – Grant Morrison with Marvel Boy, Brian K Vaughan with Runaways and The Hood, Paul Jenkins with the Sentry. They’ve all stuck around in one form or another. They may not be breakaway hits, but I’m not sure how much of that is due to the characters themselves. I know that I’ve tended to CARE about those newer characters more than olders ones. Which seems counterintuitive, given that I’ve lived with the older, more established characters since childhood. But with, say, AVENGERS ACADEMY, which for my money is the best Avengers, maybe even the best superhero comic on the stands – that sense that since these are new characters who could be killed or otherwise experience significant change has me more invested as a reader.

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ABHAY: I guess what this comic made me think most about was... What does "success in comics" mean to you? Ed Brubaker's arguably one of the great successes of Marvel comics, one of their top writers. He's an "Architect of the Marvel Universe." And...even with that being the case, he's stuck writing low-ambition AVENGERS spin-offs?

If that's what success in comics looks like, why does anyone want it? I mean, there are people who'd claw out Ed Brubaker's eyes to be the guy stuck writing this nonsense. For example: you. You would murder babies at a nursery to take over this book from Ed Brubaker. You would be wearing a crotchless clown costume while you suffocated pre-natal infants.

Or I guess what always startles me about the current generation of "star" comic creators: where's the ambition? Not in a superhero vs. non-superhero way. The last generation of comic creators was equally stuck writing superhero comics, but we have WATCHMEN, DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, YEAR ONE, MARSHAL LAW, DOOM PATROL, ANIMAL MAN, to show for it. Chaykin's THE SHADOW or his BLACKHAWKS. SANDMAN. People didn't just run around putting out action "blockbusters"...

This generation might be less stuck with superhero comics than that one, but... what do we really have to show for them being stuck with the genre? Crossovers and spin-offs? What happened? What happened to you people?

MARK: I take issue with you calling this or any other book “low ambition”. Because it’s presumptuous for either of us to pretend what a creator’s ambition is. Whether he or she succeeds in fulfilling that ambition is another matter entirely. And then there’s the matter of whether ambition should count more than execution. Would you rather an ambitious failure or a less ambitious story told well?

Low-ambition or not, I would absolutely do all those things and more for a chance to write SECRET AVENGERS. And wait – there’s such things as clown costumes WITH crotches? I wish someone had told my parents that before my eight birthday.

Success for me? Having a steadier source of income from creative activities I have now would be nice. An exclusive contract, a sustainable ongoing creator-owned book, lucrative work in another medium…any of those would change my life in a dramatic fashion. They’d allow me to do things that non-freelancers take for granted. Like have healthcare. And then I have personal creative aspirations that are ever changing and sometimes there on a subconscious level I’m not even aware of.

But you want to know why there is an apparent lack of ambition amongst my peers? Again, I’m not sure you’re right about that. Don’t mistake the results, which are subjective, for the motivation, which neither of us can know. But let’s say I accept your premise that superhero comics are suffering because of a lack of creator ambition. Why is that? For one thing, there can’t be another Watchmen because, well, there already WAS a Watchmen. That paradigm shift – and I’m speaking of not just Watchmen but more broadly of the comics of last generation - happened after, what, 50 years of superhero comics? Should we expect another one so quickly? The fact that the medium is so focused on one genre means…for 70-80 years you’ve had most of the brightest minds in comics trying to write superhero comics. Is it possible they’ve exhausted the genre to the point of decadence?

Both of those are admittedly defeatist attitudes. But there has been good work from the current generation – it’s just primarily not in mainstream, in-continuity superhero comics. Again, I attribute that in part to milking the genre to death. But I also don’t think the incentive’s there for creators to do original work.

It comes down to ownership. If you’ve got a great idea, do you want to give it to your corporate masters for a quick buck and little or no long term stake, or try to develop it on your own? It’s a rare thing for Brian K. Vaughan to take a title like Runaways and hand it to Marvel rather than taking it to, say, Image. And on the publisher’s end of things, they actively discourage new ideas. They know the marketplace will more than likely reject it. And they still don’t want to risk giving away ownership because, on the off chance it does succeed, it means them parting with money or risking a lawsuit.

So, the bar has been set pretty high by the last generation, at the same time the reward for jumping over it has been lowered. Those are the forces at work against ambitious new superhero work.

ABHAY: Let me start by respectfully saying that I disagree with everything you represent, and someday I shall defeat you and hurl you into Mount Doom. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-- I feel like this whole thing should change into an intervention. I feel like it should be like one of those awesome SOPRANOS interventions, where it starts with me trying to get you off heroin and then it just ends with James Gandolfini beating you up.

"Brightest minds in comics" -- I will never stop making fun of you for this.

I listed about a dozen books so you wouldn't focus on WATCHMEN, but... I've seen an awful lot of comic creators talk about WATCHMEN as being some kind of "end point" for the genre. And I just-- I just don't understand that. WATCHMEN proved you can do ensembles, and that you can do multi-generational sagas, and that you can do comics that mix superheros and the civilian populations that they impact, and that you can do alternate history superhero comics... And then people just overlook all that, and focus on the fact that maybe one of the characters was a little weird about sex...? Which, maybe I take personally-- I'm a little weird about sex too, but I think I have positive qualities that I'm hoping people notice instead. I mean, I don't have as many weird fetishes as Charlie Rose or whoever, but...

(Did you know that Michael Lewis ended up married to Tabitha Soren? I didn't know that myself until last week... MIchael Lewis is my Criss "Mindfreak" Angel, to put it in terms you might understand...)

As for ownership... I don't know. That "I'll keep it for myself" attitude has worked great for Mark Millar. But the "I'll give it all away and ten more things besides" attitude-- that sort of seems like it's Grant Morrison's only gear, right? Granted, probably aiming for the former makes more sense than the latter, for most people. The money seems pleasant, if you can be that guy, and heck, most people just aren't Morrison and don't have what he has. But... I don't know. I think the problem is most dudes aren't really EITHER guy...

MARK: If you didn’t want me to focus on Watchmen, than you shouldn’t have fucking mentioned Watchmen. Nobody think of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man!

But let’s look at the larger group of comics you mentioned. What do they have in common? They were, mostly, stories with a beginning, middle and end. They had only the loosest connection to larger continuity. They proved you can tell those kinds of stories, and they had stylistic innovation and density.

As I’ve said before, I think the finite, closed nature of the stories is a major part of why they are works that have stood the test of time. The fact they didn’t have to be a slave to an entire universe of continuity and the whims of multiple creators and editors and management teams were absolutely integral to the ability of their creators to innovate. I’d guess that not being tied to the kinds of scheduling demands that exist today contributed to their success as well.

I’d argue there are stories since then that have been ambitious. Astro City may not be Watchmen, but it continued to explore the interaction between super-heroes and the civilian populace. All Star-Superman managed to breathe fresh life into the longest running superhero comic. Casanova and The Winter Men are dense as hell. And let's not forget Ed Brubaker - whose Secret Avengers started you on this rant - wrote the ambitious and creatively successful Sleeper. Technically Sleeper takes place in Wildstorm continuity, but for the past decade that was a place with the flexiblity to showcase work like Planetary and The Authority that carried the torch lit by Watchmen to a certain extent.

But all those were created, like their predecessors, outside of the restrictions of in-continuity, ongoing series. If, as a creator, you can find a space to tell those stories - great. Wildstorm not longer exists. Marvel doesn’t do Elseworld stories, DC hardly does them anymore, and if you want to do a story someplace else it’s going to cost you money and readers.

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ABHAY: Do you like the art? Mainstream comics art has gotten so ... violently lavish. Everything in those kind of comics glows now. Everything in SECRET AVENGERS is constantly glowing-- the entire first issue is one glowing thing after another. Entire scenes take place in dark rooms lit only by glowing monitors. Captain America's muscles glow. Leroy the Last Dragon glows. Et cetera. But there's a weird roid-y intensity to all that glowing that's more than a little off-putting. It's just weird to me how mainstream comics look now. I don't know. I don't know if I can remember the last time I read a mainstream comic and didn't spend more time thinking about the color than the story.

MARK: I come from a writing background, from studying English and drama and law, so art is one of the last things I think about. And I probably lack the vocabulary to articulate what works and doesn’t for me visually. It’s something I’m working on. Taking life drawing classes, trying to compensate for what I don’t bring to the table.

This series…I go back and forth on it. My first instinct was – why are the panels layouts crooked? They remind me of Phantom Zone shards. When I re-read it for this inter-fight…I saw some pages where the layouts did enhance the composition. The colors? I noticed there was a lot of red. They were on Mars.

But…I guess I come from the school – and this could just as easily apply to writers as well as artists – that if a creator is doing his job you don’t notice that he’s doing it. That’s something that gets harder for me to appreciate the more I study the medium. There are exceptions to that. There are creators that can do what Tarantino or Charlie Kauffman does, that can say “hey look at me” but be so compelling that you don’t care if you’re aware of their presence. And maybe it even enhances the experience.

You and I come at things differently. You are probably one of the harshest critics I know. Not just from reading your work but from sitting next to you in a movie theater. I don’t envy being you, it doesn’t seem like you enjoy entertainment very much. I think you enjoy tearing it apart. At least I hope you do.

Me…one of the first things that started to happen to me as I made the transition from fan to pro was, I felt like I was becoming less critical of others work. Part of that is – well, it does me no favors to share my dislike of something with what are now my peers. But it’s also…sitting down and trying to write a mainstream comic with all the restrictions inherent in that? I suddenly started saying, you know what, I’m not sure I can do better than Howard Mackie or Chuck Austen or whoever I was convinced I could do better than before I was working professionally. I’m much, much more critical of my own work, thankfully. I have to be - I’m in a place where my failures are public and there is no taking it back.

Where was I going with this? Well, for all our differences, maybe we do share some of the same tastes in art. Creators like Paul Azaceta or Sean Murphy or Robbi Rodriguez or Julian Totino Tedesco or Andy MacDonald (to name just about everyone I’ve ever worked with). When I started with Paul…his work was an acquired taste for me. I grew up thinking the ultra-detailed work of Jim Lee and Marc Silvestri occupied a higher place on the evolutionary scale. I’ve gained a respect for fundamentals and for a less-is-more approach. I don’t think most fans, or artists, or people who decide which artists get work have an appreciation for that.

ABHAY: "From studying English and drama and law" -- Jesus, were you wearing a powdered wig when you answered these questions? When did you turn into Ben Franklin's gigolo?

I like... I like entertainment. (Did I just type that sentence?) It's not my fault most "entertainment" isn't entertaining. I didn't put a gun to whoever made THE TOURIST's head and tell him to ruin me going to the movies with my Dad. My dad wants to see Angelina Jolie have adventures, which I think is a pretty innocent thing to want out of life,and next thing you know, they're punishing us for that. I didn't will that to happen. I didn't vote to put that TOURIST shit on the Black List or whatever. They just did that to my family, for no reason.

Not sure how to respond-- I don't even know if we're even on the same planet, here. I mean, just this idea that I'm "tearing apart" anything, for starters... You and Steve Niles and whoever believes this nonsense that things can be "torn apart"... Where the hell did that phrase come from? It's just silly. Because I don't think I'm tearing anything apart. I think I'm constructing something of my own, that belongs to me, and trying to share that with people, same as anyone who writes anything. I think it's all writing; writing is writing, sharing is sharing, and pretending that one batch is somehow more special than another, or some other batch is bad and wrong and snarky and tears things apart-- that's just not how I understand the world. I think that's just propaganda from people who want to sell shitty things to idiots. And anyway, nothing's gotten "torn apart": THE TOURIST is still there, on a DVD shelf, waiting to make innocent people miserable, no matter what mean things I say about it. As far as I'm concerned, they never put it together properly to begin with-- they sold it torn apart.

I like oodles of things though. HOW TV RUINED YOUR LIFE-- I'm completely head over heels for that show; I think it's Charlie Brookers's masterpiece. I liked KING CITY. I'm enjoying INHERENT VICE (slowly) so far. I like that new Keira Knightley perfume ad.  I definitely like the work of all those artists you mentioned. I definitely can't do better than Howard Mackie or Chuck Austen at what they did, though I'm lucky that I don't particularly want to do what they did. I definitely, definitely can't do better than whoever made THE TOURIST. But I don't think you have to (or should) believe that to have an opinion, or want to compare notes with other people...

MARK: I’m not saying that in order to have an opinion, or express one, that you need to be able to do better. I do think you need to have that as a creator. You need a bit of ego to put your work out there. If you don’t think on some level you don’t have something new to offer as a writer…why put it out there?

But with comics criticism, you have these two forces colliding. One, the the democratization of criticism with the internet. Two…it’s a small, very intimate industry. I can’t think of another art form where you can interact directly with the creator. And so I think there’s a disproportionate amount of people criticizing comics that want to be creators. I’m not saying all this as a creator looking down at critics. I’m say that as someone that was on the other side of that wall. I started out as a fan ripping into other people’s work on message boards and writing little “reviews”. And looking back, I know at least part of what was motivating me was jealousy. A sense of frustration that comics were terrible, and that I was oh so close to the door but I couldn’t quite get my foot in.

What changed after I became a professional was that I gained an understanding very quickly that what I was criticizing was a lot fucking harder to do than I thought. I’d like to think it gave me some humility. I maybe have more sympathy for creators. If I’m completely honest, yes, I do probably feel on some level that narrative fiction or drama is more of a contribution to culture than a critical essay. Like I said, I need to feel on some level that what I’m doing is more important than what you or anyone else is doing or else why the fuck am I dedicating my life to it?

I’m constantly aware of the fact that I’m creating and earning a living off the work of my forebears, most of whom were treated horribly. Even when I’m doing creator owned work, I’m not doing it in a vacuum. Others have created the genres and sacrificed for my opportunity to own my work. For both of us, our creations, our interactions with previously existing work can be symbiotic or parasitic. But it’s disingenuous of you to suggest your writing has no effect on the work or the creator. Again, we operate in a very small industry. The most successful comic is lucky to sell 100,000 copies. I’ve heard it said that there are essentially 5,000 people that are willing to try new work. A critic doesn’t have to dissuade or encourage that many people to pick up or drop a book to make a difference, especially in aggregate.

The critic plays an essential role. Good work deserves to be exposed to more readers. I understand that in the process, you think sometimes you need to point out that the emperor isn't wearing clothes. But that doesn't mean I have to like it when I'm the one whose naked, or when you're just completely wrong about everything.

DING! DING! DING! AND THAT'S THE BELL...

WITH NO CLEAR KNOCK-OUT, THAT MEANS WE GO TO THE JUDGE'S DECISION. (AND OF COURSE, AS THE ONLY FULLY ACCREDITED COMIC CRITIC, THE JOB OF JUDGMENT WILL BE HANDLED BY ME, ABHAY-- JUDGING IS SORT OF WHAT I DO)...

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AND WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION FROM OUR JUDGES-- THE VICTOR OF THIS ROUND IS...

COMIC CRITICS.

SPEECH! SPEECH!

Well, this was a real tough for me to win, so I'm just ecstatic that we pulled this off. I think Mark came close to beating me on stylin', but I think I perservered when it came to profilin'. A lot of people underestimate the importance of profilin', but I put a lot of time into studying my profilin', and it's nice to see that paid off with this win. Mark put up a good fight, and he was a noble opponent, but ... If only one of us can be the winner, then I'm just ecstatic that it was me.  As a meager consolation, here's the promo image for Mark's next book--

FIGHT NUMBER ONE GOES TO THE COMIC CRITICS... BUT WHAT ABOUT FIGHT NUMBER TWO? WE'LL FIND OUT THIS SUMMER, IN THE ARENA OF "ART COMICS," WITH SIX ROUNDS OVER MAT BRINKMAN'S MULTIFORCE...

TWO MEN ENTER... TWO MEN LEAVE... NO GIRLS ANYWHERE IN SIGHT... I MEAN, ANYWHERE-- IT IS A DARK MOMENT IN ALL OF OUR LIVES... SAUSAGE FEST AHOY!!!!!

In Which Hibbs Actually Recommends Something

As many of you know, I've really become quite a cynical bitch about comics lately. There's just a resounding sameness to so many of them, and too many writers are "writing for the trade" (rather than trying to make each single issue a compelling read in an of itself). In far too many weeks, I think the alright stuff is really just all right in comparison to other, lousier, comics.

Well, I read a comic that I genuinely liked in and of itself this week, and I want you to read it as well, That comic is XOMBI #1.

XOMBI gave me a thrill, because it's full of crazy ideas just tossed out there, like a good Grant Morrison comic -- seriously, it features a team of Catholic superheroes, one of whom is named "Nun The Less", whose superpower is shrinking -- and, in this incarnation, it has some REALLY GOOD art, by way of Frazer Irving.

XOMBI was a Milestone book -- part of the third wave, if I recall correctly, released after the market had decided, actually no it didn't want the Milestone books, though, looking at comics.org, I'm a little shocked that it lasted 22 issues back in the mid-90s.

It was an idea machine back then, too, but it kinda suffered from art in v1 by JJ Birch -- well, Joe Brozowski under a pen-name, and he's one of those artists who actually has a lot of wonderful fundamentals, but whose actual rendering style isn't too exciting, really. Everyone looked a bit stiff and angular.

This isn't a problem now with Frazer Irving doing the art -- man, this stuff just sings.

This series clearly follows from the first, but I understood every word that I read (and it's been like 14 years between issues, so I'm telling you this as a plus), and it felt very much like a proper first issue.

If I had ONE criticism of the book, it would be that it's a full 22 pages for the $2.99, instead of the now-usual 20-pages-for-a-DC-book, which means that issue #1 doesn't have a letter's page, and, thus, doesn't have any kind of "introduction and here's what we're thinking!" kind of text pieces that all of the best first issues have.

Here's how much I liked it -- so far today, I have not LET a single customer out the door without a copy of the book in their hands. I don't think I've done THAT since the SANDMAN days, actually. The downside of THAT is that, as I write this, I have exactly one copy left for sale, and I'll be sold out in the next 10-15 minutes. (reorders, sadly, take 2 weeks to turn around in the current system, unless you're willing to pay usurious shipping rates)

Which leads me to the next "here's how much I liked it" -- I've just placed a reorder equivalent to nearly 200% my initial order.... and I'm not sure I've ever quite gambled that big (well, proportionately) in a long-ass time.

So, yeah, when you go into your LCS, tell them you really would like a copy of XOMBI #1 -- it's a pretty exciting comic -- and if they're out (which they might be, I bet most stores ordered just barely above pre-orders), tell them it's Diamond order code is JAN11 0259, and that you want them to reorder it for you.

I thought XOMBI #1 was absolutely EXCELLENT.

-B

Wait, What? Ep. 31: Epic Runs of Non-Epicness

Photobucket I'll spare you the epic amounts of bitching I usually unleash around this time, the end/start/whatever-the-hell-it-is of Daylight Savings Time that always fucks me up for at least a few days and sometimes as much as a week. Suffice it to say, if you've ever heard Paul F. Tompkins' terrific bit mocking people who over-react to DST, and wander about in a daze saying things like, "Who--who's President? What day is this? Have I grown a long, woolly beard?", you will know he is making fun of people like me. Even as I laughed with recognition at the routine and promised to change, I apparently cannot: it took a taser to get me out of bed this morning.

Anyway, enough about that! Let's talk about Wait, What? Episode 31! Martian Manhunter! Justice League Detroit! Takio! Michael Fleisher's run on Ghost Rider! John Romita, Jr.! L'il Punisher! It's got just about everything you could want--more or less--in just as much time in which you would want it--provided you would want it in about 90 minutes.

It should be on Itunes! (Alternately? It is on Itunes!) And you can listen to it here, if that is the sort of thing you like to do:

Wait, What? Ep. 31: Epic Runs of Non-Epicness

As noted on the podcast itself, we are still working with a slightly touchy Skype connection, my new buzzy headphones, and a willingness to work at improving the sound quality via Levelator and noise removal tools.  If it sounds hinky to you, please let us know--we are still working the bugs out.

And, as always, thanks for listening!

Arriving 3/16/2011

Ugh, I loath Daylight Savings Time... especially for this time of year with a before 8 AM school drop off time... 2000 AD PACK JAN 2011 28 DAYS LATER #21 5 RONIN #3 (OF 5) CAMUNCOLI VAR ADVENTURE COMICS #524 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #656 BIG ARCHIE & FRIENDS #153 ARTIFACTS #6 (OF 13) CVR A NOTO AVENGERS ACADEMY #11 AVENGERS CHILDRENS CRUSADE YOUNG AVENGERS #1 BATMAN #708 BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #189 BOMB QUEEN VS HACK SLASH SPEC ONE-SHOT BRIGHTEST DAY #22 CASANOVA GULA #3 (OF 4) CHARMED #8 A CVR SEIDMAN DARK TOWER GUNSLINGER LITTLE SISTERS ELURIA #4 (OF 5) DARKWING DUCK #10 DC COMICS PRESENTS BATMAN IRRESISTIBLE #1 DC UNIVERSE LEGACIES #10 (OF 10) DC UNIVERSE ONLINE LEGENDS #4 DEATH OF ZORRO #1 DMZ #63 DOCTOR WHO ONGOING VOL 2 #2 FEAR ITSELF BOOK OF THE SKULL #1 FORMIC WARS BURNING EARTH #3 (OF 7) GEARS OF WAR #16 GENERATION HOPE #5 GI JOE INFESTATION #2 (OF 2) GRIM GHOST #1 GUILD TINK ONE SHOT RON CHAN CVR HACK SLASH ONGOING #2 SEELEY CVR HULK #30 POINT ONE ICEMAN AND ANGEL #1 INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #502 IRON MAN 2.0 #2 JUGHEAD #206 KNIGHT & SQUIRE #6 (OF 6) LAST PHANTOM #5 LOKI #4 (OF 4) MARVEL ZOMBIES SUPREME #2 (OF 5) MICE TEMPLAR VOL 3 #3 MICHAEL AVON OEMING CVR MICKEY MOUSE #306 MORNING GLORIES #8 NIGHT O/T LIVING DEAD DEATH VALLEY #1 (OF 5) NORTHLANDERS #38 OZ WONDERLAND CHRONICLES JACK & CAT TALES #2 (OF 3) PHOENIX #1 POWER GIRL #22 REBELS #26 RED ROBIN #21 RUSE #1 (OF 4) SCOOBY DOO WHERE ARE YOU #7 SEA GHOST #1 SEA GHOST I/T MACHINE SIMPSONS COMICS #176 SONIC UNIVERSE #26 SPIDER #1 SPIKE #6 (OF 8) SPIRIT #12 STAN LEE SOLDIER ZERO #6 SUPERMAN #709 THUNDER AGENTS #5 THUNDERBOLTS #155 THUNDERSTRIKE #4 (OF 5) TIME LINCOLN CUBA COMMANDER ONE-SHOT TINY TITANS #38 TWILIGHT GUARDIAN #3 (OF 4) ULTIMATE AVENGERS VS NEW ULTIMATES #2 (OF 6) DOSM UNCANNY X-FORCE #5 POINT ONE UNCANNY X-MEN ANNUAL #3 UNWRITTEN #23 VAMPIRELLA #4 WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #11 WARLORD OF MARS #5 WOLFSKIN HUNDREDTH DREAM #5 (OF 6) WORLD OF ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST #5 X-FACTOR #217 XOMBI #1 YOUNG JUSTICE #2

Books / Mags / Stuff ASTONISHING X-MEN PREM HC XENOGENESIS COWBOYS AND ALIENS IT BOOKS HC ED CREATOR CHRONICLES MATT WAGNER DVD DOWNSIZED GN ESSENTIAL X-MEN TP VOL 04 NEW ED HEAVY METAL SPRING 2011 IZOMBIE TP VOL 01 DEAD TO THE WORLD JUDGE DREDD MEGAZINE #307 JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA DARK THINGS HC KRAZY & IGNATZ TP 1919 1921 BENEVOLENT BRICK SUPER HERO SQUAD GN TP SUPER HERO SAFARI THUNDERBOLTS TP CAGE TOY STORY TOY OVERBOARD TP VESHA VALENTINE STORY GN YO GABBA GABBA COMIC BOOK TIME HC YOUR HIGHNESS TP

What looks good to YOU?

-B

CE: 21 -- Better late than never!

Well, so our 22nd anniversary is about three weeks away, but Seven Summit Productions just finished up the production on the video that they shot at the 21st anniversary party. I think it is swell! It's also filled with all kinds of familiar faces saying all kinds of nice things. Give it a watch!  

Comix Experience 21st Anniversary from Seven Summits Productions on Vimeo.

-B

Hibbs kicks around some of 3/9/11

Hitting the ground running, too much on my plate... (and I blew too much of my morning by reading those transcripts that Rich posted...) BOOSTER GOLD #42: It's looking extremely likely that Booster Gold is going to keep being published at least through issue #50 (though, given sales figures, I really wouldn't give it a lot of hope past that...), which is pretty amazing when you consider that his first series only lasted 25 issues!

Giffen and DeMatties have mostly been bringing the bwah during their run here, but this issue was fairly serious and straight forward. I was pretty deeply amused by the "tada, time travel!" nature of having last issue's cliffhanger, and also not letting it derail the book.... but the very nature of time travel completely gutted this issue's plot/premise.

The cover asks "Who is the Perforated Man?" and on the very first page you meet the character it is BLINDINGLY obvious who it is. I mean, even the first line of dialogue is a big flashing arrow. But the fact that it is who it has to be completely removes any possible jeopardy from the story, since we know enough about the character's past and future to know that the situation can't be anything but temporary. (wow, what a tortured sentence that is when I'm trying to write that spoiler-free!)

Add the fact that this is a two-parter (well, at least), I'll have to go thumbs-down on this issue. Pretty EH on the Savage Scale. It's too bad, because I'd somehow be crazy pleased if BOOSTER GOLD somehow made it to triple digits...

One other thing to observe is that this month marks the return of the letter pages to the DC line (well, at least on the ones that are actually on schedule! So not in, say BATMAN, INC.), and I'll say that, no matter what, at least having the "next issue's cover" back makes the whole experiment a success for this reader. On the other hand, there's no sense in bringing the page back if all it's going to be is mindless glowing praise, and direct exhortations to buy other books. I know, I know, it is only month one, and, probably, none of the current DC editors have any real prior experience working on lettercols, but each and every one of them I read this week was utterly weak-sauce and unentertaining.  I'd also use that "in the spotlight" callout to go title-specific with backlist, rather than a line-wide promotion, but that may just be me...

SUPERBOY #5: I've been digging this comic way more than I would have ever thought possible -- the writing has been fun, and the art pretty swell -- but the Kid Flash/Superboy race here really didn't work for me, because the story made it clear that it wasn't a race at all -- they even stop and sit down for a long conversation in the middle of the book!  Boo, hiss! Also: "Changeling"'s real name is GAR, not GarTH. Garth is Aqualad Tempest, who, yes, is also a Titan, but is not in this comic book, being dead and all. An editor at DC comics, editing a Titan-related comic book should, you would hope, know that. Sadly EH.

Parenthetically, I finally watched a few episodes of YOUNG JUSTICE, and was really shocked to see that the NEW Aqualad has a completely different origin in the comics and the TV show. What's the point of trying to tie these different versions together then? Especially when Garth is in the cartoon, too... weird.

TITANS #33: Speaking of Titans... well, this isn't really Titans, and it's just ugly and gross on nearly every level, and every month I'm shocked that I still have sub customers for this. I suspect they're waiting for the comic to go back to being about the Titans, and they don't want a whole in the numbering when that happens, though I suspect it will be canceled before then, because the franchise really isn't strong enough to support two titles. This went subs-only at Comix Experience with the third issue of this "new direction" because the second sold ZERO rack copies, and in reading through this before putting it in a subbers box shows me really why that is: this pretty much stinks. There's the continuation of junkie-Arsenal where it's clear that no one involved has ever done drugs before, and with 100% less deadcatswing; there's two disjointed subplots about the Atom and Osiris/Isis that read like they have nothing to do whatsoever with this comic; there's a "gasp-shock" antagonist reveal that made me go "wait, who is that supposed to be?" instead; and one of the most gratuitously gory endings I've seen in a comic in a long time. In short: this book is CRAP.  Also, it features the line of dialogue "Capture them all. With extreme prejudice." Um. How do you do THAT? By saying "Ching chong! Ching Chong!" while fighting Cheshire? Saying to Arsenal "Great Frog really sucked, and hippies smell?" Seriously? What the fuck?

NEW AVENGERS #10: I found the modern section to be kind of amusing with Susperia's rants about the Avengers "cheating" and all, and the semi-false jeopardy of Mockingbird's wound (though, seriously, Dr. Strange can't teleport her to a hospital directly? Really?), but I don't see what the flashback stuff had to do with anything, or why I should care whatsoever. Plus it was really hideous, I think even John K (UK) might agree? There were two issues of NewAv about 2-3 months back that were essentially "The Domestic Adventures of Luke and Jessica, co-starring the Avengers", and I thought THOSE were super-swell issues, but this is pretty overpriced for what they give you, and Bendis has been writing Avengers for what feels like forever, and it has never felt less relevant to me than now. I dunno, I'm old and bitter about comics these days, but I can't muster anything better than a very low OK for this?

SIGIL #1 (OF 4): I only vaguely remember the CrossGen series (those books all blur to me), but this appears to have nothing whatsover to do with that version? Hm, wiki says the protagonist has the same name, but there's a gender switch here with a change of venue. It looks like this looks the most (to me) as "Meridian", actually, but I guess the point is that none of the original version matters at all? Fine. On it's own merits, this was fairly EH -- oddly the "fantasy" sequences seemed fairly clever and strong, but the "real world" stuff just seemed to ring incredibly false to me. Maybe it was the antagonists of the girl gang or whatever. They felt about as real as "Debbie Duck" did way back in STARBRAND. (God, I'm dating myself again, aren't I?) -- there's just not enough of the setup properly laid out in this first issue to make me want to come back for issue #2, but at least it's only $2.99, so there's a plus. EH.

ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #155 DOSM: Other than "I don't see HOW this is a 'prelude' to 'Death of Spider-Man'?" and that it has a "This scene never appears in this comic" cover, I quite liked this issue. Nice bits of characterization, and some downright killer art from Chis Samnee. Bagley's back after this, but seeing Samnee's work on the book, I'm not sure I want that anymore. So yeah, I liked this, which is nice to leave on an upbeat note: VERY GOOD.

As always: what did YOU think?

-B

Wait, What? Ep. 30: Slow Burns and Subplots

Photobucket Yes, it's that time again (though I would've had this yesterday for you if I could): Graeme and I are back with Episode 30, and in it we talk about Veronica Mars, the future of slow-burns and subplots, Dave Roman's Astronaut Academy, and of course Mike Friedrich's Justice League of America.  It's brief, it's peppy, and it's been remixed with both Levelator and noise removal tools (because my new headset might be a bit of a dog).  Does it sound better? Worse?  The same?  Let us know!

You can find it on iTunes, or so I'm told, or should you prefer, you can certainly listen to it here:

Wait, What? Ep. 30: Slow Burns and Subplots

As always, we hope you enjoy!

Arriving 3/9/2011

Here's this week's shipping list.... ALL NEW BATMAN THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD #5 BATGIRL #19 BATMAN AND ROBIN #21 BATMAN INCORPORATED #3 BIRDS OF PREY #10 BOOSTER GOLD #42 CINDERELLA FABLES ARE FOREVER #2 (OF 6) DOC SAVAGE #12 DOOM PATROL #20 IZOMBIE #11 JSA ALL STARS #16 JUSTICE LEAGUE GENERATION LOST #21 (BRIGHTEST DAY) LEGION OF SUPER VILLAINS #1 OUTSIDERS #37 (DOOMSDAY) SUPERBOY #5 TITANS #33 VERTIGO RESURRECTED FINALS #1 VICTORIAN UNDEAD II HOLMES VS DRACULA #5 (OF 5) WEIRD WORLDS #3 (OF 6) WONDER WOMAN #608 ZATANNA #10 5 RONIN #2 (OF 5) BROOKS VAR CAPTAIN AMERICA AND FIRST THIRTEEN #1 HAWKEYE: BLIND SPOT #2 (OF 4) INCREDIBLE HULKS #624 NEW AVENGERS #10 ONSLAUGHT UNLEASHED #2 (OF 4) PUNISHERMAX #11 (RES) SIGIL #1 (OF 4) SUPER HEROES #12 ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #155 DOSM VENOM #1 X-23 #7 X-MEN LEGACY #246 AGEX 27 (TWENTY SEVEN) #4 (OF 4) B & V FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST #212 BPRD HELL ON EARTH GODS #3 (OF 3) CAPTAIN ACTION WINTER SPECIAL CAPTAIN SWING #3 (OF 4) CLINT #5 COMIC BOOK COMICS #5 (RES) CONAN ROAD OF KINGS #3 (OF 6) DONALD DUCK #364 DUNGEONS & DRAGONS DARK SUN #3 (OF 5) ELEPHANTMEN #30 GARTH ENNIS JENNIFER BLOOD #2 GHOSTBUSTERS INFESTATION #1 (OF 2) GUARDING THE GLOBE #4 (OF 6) HONEY WEST #3 INSURRECTION V3.6 #1 JUGHEADS DOUBLE DIGEST #168 JURASSIC PARK DEVILS IN THE DESERT #3 (OF 4) LADY DEATH (ONGOING) #3 LIL DEPRESSED BOY #2 (NOTE PRICE) NIGHT ANIMALS (ONE SHOT) RED SONJA REVENGE O/T GODS #1 (OF 5) SARAH PALIN VS WORLD ONE-SHOT SHERLOCK HOLMES YEAR ONE #2 SPAWN #204 (RES) STAN LEE STARBORN #4 VERONICA #205 WALKING DEAD #82 WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #10 WARLORD OF MARS DEJAH THORIS #1

Books / Mags / Stuff AKIRA KODANSHA ED GN VOL 05 ASTERIX TP ASTERIX & OBELIX BIRTHDAY BLEACH TP VOL 34 CALLING CTHULHU CHRONICLES TP COMICS ILLUSTRATED HISTORY OF COMIC STRIP ART HC DAY OF THE MAGICIANS GN DC SUPERHERO FIG COLL MAG #74 DEADMAN DEADPOOL TP VOL 05 WHAT HAPPENED IN VEGAS DISNEY FAIRIES GN VOL 05 TINKER BELL PIRATE ADVENTURE FREEWAY GN (RES) GIRL COMICS TP GOTHAM CENTRAL HC VOL 04 CORRIGAN GOTHAM CENTRAL TP BOOK 01 IN THE LINE OF DUTY ISAAC THE PIRATE GN VOL 01 TO EXOTIC LANDS (O/A) JOHN STANLEY MELVIN MONSTER HC VOL 03 LENNY ZERO & PERPS OF MEGA CITY ONE TP PALE HORSE TP PRINCE VALIANT HC VOL 03 1941-1942 SHADOWLAND PREM HC MOON KNIGHT SKULLKICKERS TP VOL 01 1000 OPAS & DEAD BODY STAR WARS OMNIBUS TP VOL 01 AT WAR WITH EMPIRE SUPERSIZED STRANGE TALES FROM FAST FOOD CULTURE GN THOR MIGHTY AVENGER GN TP VOL 02 TIME BOMB TP ULTIMATE COMICS THOR PREM HC UNKNOWN TP VOL 02 DEVIL MADE FLESH WEAPONS OF THE METABARONS HC WOLVERINE WEAPON X TP VOL 03 TOMORROW DIES TODAY ZATANNA MISTRESS OF MAGIC TP

What looks good to YOU?

-B

Why We Cease To Care

Comic sales are down, as we all know; people are reading less of the periodicals, and, in many cases, walking away from the hobby altogether. It is my belief that, in almost all cases, this is the very fault of the publishers. Here, for me, are four examples of why, in the form of four "reviews":

BRIGHTEST DAY #21: There's just three issues left of this, and we still don't have any real idea of what the end of BLACKEST NIGHT actually meant, what is driving the white lantern, how the seemingly unconnected resurrected heroes are connected to anything whatsoever, or really what any of it means.

In the last few issues we've seen: the Hawks seemingly get immolated and die again, Aquaman lose his hand (again) and seemingly die again, and now in this issue Martian Manhunter seemingly die again (though, ugh, the symbology, along with Firestorm, is the classic elements: Fire, Air, Water and now Earth, which sort of makes me think that they're going to make these character the new Elementals, and I WAY hope that's wrong)

But I'm just tired of all the torture and the agony, and the just general level of unpleasentness that's been grafted upon the four "leads" here -- and grafted it is: the four antagonists ("Deathstorm", Hawkgirl's mom, Mera's people's war leader, and D'Kay) (see, I can't even remember the names of half of them, which shows you just how memorable they were) NEVER EVEN EXISTED before the start of this storyline, and these "epic struggles" therefore have just no weight or meaning to me as an individual reader, as they don't actually flow from CHARACTER, but from artificially induced INCIDENT.

So, yeah, this is the "tentpole" of the DCU right now, and, once again, it's looking like an excuse for, shall we say, Torture Porn of these characters, and that based upon FALSE INCIDENT. Jeez, no thanks!

The sole saving grace of this issue was that J'onn went down with equanimity, but if I was paying cash money for these comics, I am certain I would have dropped it last issue after "cut off Arthur's hand, and rekill him" happened.

Breaking faith with your audience, EVEN IF YOU ARE PLANNING A THIRD ACT REVERSAL, is seldom a good idea because that audience may not even be there to SEE that reversal.

I'm thinking this is kinda AWFUL, sorry.

FIRST WAVE #6: This is where the scare quotes really come in, because I can't "review" what I haven't read, and I stopped reading this like with issue #3 because the delays between issues made me stop caring.

I've said it before: in this busy busy world with 900+ TV channels, and all fiction of all kinds being ETEWAF, and more words being published on blogs than any thousand humans could even HOPE to consume, the real commodity is ATTENTION.

Bi-monthly (or worse) series that don't not only kick your ass, but then makes a fluffy pillow from the remains, snuggles you tight, then rekicks that ass, can NOT hold the audience's attention.

The entire "First Wave" concept was brutally beaten to death in it's crib because:

1) The core series didn't come out in a six-month time frame

2) Spin-off books weren't held until AFTER THE COMPLETION of the core relaunch series TO SEE IF ANYONE CARED

3) And the spin-offs were both too expensive for the content, AND didn't launch with the "right" creative teams from day one.

"First Wave" is a MASTER CLASS in how you DO NOT launch and market a "line" of comics. It also, I think, shows why you CAN'T launch a "line" of interconnected comics in the first place -- it's insincere and managed, and the audience can see that coming a mile away, and wish to have nothing to do with your cynical ploy to take money from them.

GREEN LANTERN #63 (WAR OF GL): You're going to be hard pressed to find a bigger GL fan than me, and, even more specifically, a bigger Hal fan. "Who is your favorite character?" would always get an unflinching "Hal Jordan!" from me, even before he was cool... and even when it was the darkest days of Parallax and all that shit. Magic wishing rings are just cool.

I'd really like to read a comic book about Hal Jordan. Not "one he appears in", but a comic ABOUT Hal Jordan, where his character and motivations dictate the actions, not outside incident and plothammering.

Geoff Johns had it right for a really long time -- something like the first three years of the book it was actually about Hal. But around "Sinestro Corps War" he let his love of incident take over. Now, we were all cool with that, because it was fun and clever, and big and 'splodey, and at least the root of the idea was rooted in Sinestro's character.

And then came "Blackest Night", and same thing, kind of -- I mean, he HAD been building to this at least from the "Rebirth" mini-series, and "dead superheroes walk the earth" and the entire "Rainbow Corps" is a funnish High Concept, and, what the hell, we can let it go because, at least, it appeared he always wanted to get HERE.

But now that the "here" of BN is done and gone, I at least, get the sense that we're totally into "making it up as we go along" territory, and the book called "Green Lantern" really barely has "Green Lantern" in it, and even if it does, it doesn't matter that it is Hal -- this could have interchangeably been Kyle, or John, or, hell,  Nadroj Lah of sector 4182 for all of the practical difference it would make to the story -- Green Lantern hasn't been the protagonist of his own story in something like 3-4 years?

I'm still reading GL -- and this issue was OK -- but I stopped buying the collections (Blackest Night was my last... and I didn't bother with "BN: GL" even). I gave up on "GL Corps" even earlier, and I've only read a single issue of the third GL spin-off (mostly because Guy is AWESOME as a FOIL, but really painfully dull as a LEAD) -- and it's all because it really has nothing to do with that cool-ass Hal Jordan fighting the Tattooed Man or something with a giant green boxing glove.

And, see that (parentheses) in the title? "(War of GL)"? Yeah, this is the launch of another multi-month, multi-book storyline, which means we're going to be even more multi-months where the book isn't even about it's lead. *sigh*

I'd like Green Lantern to be the actual protagonist and motivating spark of the comic called "Green Lantern", please.

WOLVERINE BEST THERE IS #4: There's a certain amount of sense to give an inherently violence-driven character like Wolverine (His powers are metal claws, and the ability to heal from any wound!) a "Mature Readers" comic. A certain amount of sense.

And, if I'm going to do that, yeah Ryp is probably the artist I want to try and get to draw that -- I love the cat's style, and I've always thought he should be a super-star artist.

Here's what you DON'T do however, from a marketing perspective:

1) Flood out the market with ongoing series and "the one shot of the month" so that when you try and consolidate and relaunch a monthly no one even knows that you're doing that.

2) Create a "family" of books to surround it (Daken, X-23, also monthlies!)

Those are bad enough and an uphill climb for titles, but then they make the two specific-to-this-book dumb ass moves:

3) take a "dirty" artist like Ryp, but give the books COVERS by a "clean" artist like Bryan Hitch. I understand that Hitch is "hot", but you can't put work that SO stylistically different from the interiors and expect that ever to work in any universe. The customers think "Oooh, clean Hitch!" when they pick it up and go "Ugh, NOT!" when they put it down

4) Make a book "Mature readers", ESPECIALLY with putting that huge ugly PMMC-style "warning" label on the cover, AND THEN BLACK OUT THE SWEARING. Are you fucking kidding me? Or, as the book would have it: "Are you ####### kidding me?"

Obviously, it doesn't help that you've got a story that is, at best, a two parter and its stretched out over what I imagine is going to be six issues, filled with a whole lot of pretty uninteresting antagonists who get page after page after page of their backstories and motivations and techniques which the protagonist just passively sits there and takes it.

Sadly, this is AWFUL stuff, but the marketing behind it is even worse.

What do YOU think?

-B

Wait, What? Ep. 29.3: Not A Joiner.

Photobucket The above image really doesn't have as much to do with our final installment of Ep. 29 as I would like, but sweet baby Jesus, do I love it so.  It's going to take a lot of work not for me to dig up a Marcos Martin checklist and start collecting.

That said--yes! The conclusion of Episode 29!  Graeme and I answering your questions and talking until your iPod is blue in its face!  We talk Spider-Man as member of the Future Foundation and possibly X-Men! We talk comic book continuity!  We talk Superman and his role in the DCU! We talk the box office receipts of Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim! And more!  With slightly better grammar, even!

It's on...iTunes?  And it is also here, for you to listen to...or not.  Perhaps you have a school project due, one that requires you to splice in audio of geeky men talking comic books over images of butter being spread on bread and people getting napalmed and Tura Satana kicking someone in the face.  We can help!  (Though you will probably only get a B.)

Wait, What? Ep. 29.3: Not A Joiner.

Thank you for listening and we hope you have enjoyed almost a week's worth of podcasts?  We will try to be a little more sparing in the future, so feel free to portion it out as you wish!

Wait, What? Ep. 29.2: Retweeted by Brad Meltzer!

Photobucket Okay, things are a little bit more peaceful here, so here's something a little more episode appopriate for Ep. 29.2, wherein Graeme and myself continue to answer questions posed by us on Twitter. I won't spoil the questions but I some of the answers are: The Fantastic Four, Peanuts, Ghost Rider, Chester Gould's Dick Tracy, Jack Kirby's Demon, Black Lightning, Brian Wood's Josie & and the Pussycats, Luke Cage, Buck Wild, and much more. (Well, at least a few more, anyway.)

It's on iTunes (although apparently that's no guarantee of anything as some of you didn't get ep. 28 or its prologue even though I put it up middle of last week) and you can also listen to it "barbarian-style," as Dean Trippe amusingly referred to it, by streaming it right here and now, by Crom:

Wait, What? Ep. 29.2: Retweeted by Brad Meltzer!

We hope you enjoy and thank you again for your patronage!

Wait, What? Ep. 29.1: Requiem for a Heavyweight

Photobucket Boy o boy, am I running behind.  Dramatically behind.  And the RSS feed is acting up for reasons I can't explain, nor really be able to take the time to figure out what's happening with it (today). So--thanks again for the terrific Adam Knave for his fan art!

But I did want you to be able to listen to Graeme and I talk about Dwayne McDuffie and get into the first of our three installments answering listeners' questions as posed to us on Twitter.  (You are following us on Twitter, right?  @graemem and @lazybastid?)  We talk Bob Haney, Martian Manhunter and Justice League, the first comics we ever read, and the secret power of our own dumb-assedness.  It's on iTunes, and you can also listen to it right here, oh yes:

Wait, What? Ep. 29.1: Requiem for a Heavyweight

We hope you enjoy!  As always my apologies for the various RSS shenanigans and hope to have them smoothed out (at least as much as they ever get) very soon!

Dipping a toe back in

[I'm kinda cheating a little bit here, because this isn't about comics, per se (Thursday for that, I suspect, once I've read some of this week's books)] One of the things that happens when you own a comic book store is that people expect you to magically know everything even tangentially related to comics, but especially movies. I've had people asking me for weeks what I think of Joss Whedon's AVENGERS film, or about THOR.. and there's not so much I can say, is there? I have no magical insight, and, in fact, I try to avoid reading "movie news", so I'm actually surprised when the movies comes out.

In fact, I'm probably the WORST person to ask about comic book movies, these days because I have a seven year old. Oh, I'll go to movies that a seven year old can watch (though, really on most of them I leave that to the grandparents), but I'm having a hard time recalling exactly what the last aimed-at-adults movie I saw in the theaters actually was. Tzipora and I made several tries to go see INCEPTION, but we never actually made it (for a variety of silly reasons)

So, I wait for DVD... and, even worse, I usually wait for DVD from the San Francisco Public Library. You can put yourself on waiting lists before the films are even released, and it's not unusual to be person #127 in line for a new or popular film. Buuuut, the upside is that they're free (well, I've already paid my taxes for them, that is), and they're delivered to your local branch, whcih we're already going to 2-3 times a week as it is.

But this puts me months and months and months behind the zeitgeist.

Case in point: just this last week I watched two films I've been waiting some time for -- KICK-ASS and SCOTT PILGRIM.  *Now* I can finally tell people what I thought of them, and just about the point where no one cares any longer! Yay! So....

KICK-ASS:  I totally thought that the comic book "lost the thread" of the story once Hit-Girl was introduced, and KA himself had less and less to do with the comic, but in the film version I thought this was much less of a problem. In fact, the film is really more about what an ineffectual boob KA is, so to have him upstaged in his own movie is almost clever.

And Hit-Girl is just an awesome character in the movie -- pretty much everything one would want, and a portrayal that worked for me in a way that the comic simply didn't. On the other hand, this is a movie my wife had ZERO interest in watching, and after watching it, I couldn't find anything to recommend it to her, in particular. (Ben really wanted to watch it, but that was a big "NO WAY, DUDE!" from day one)

So yeah: Shiny action, loud coarse vulgarities, lots and lots of gore, and a cute little girl in the middle of it all. I enjoyed it while I was watching it, but after it was over I felt reasonably cold -- it's all 16 year old boy wish fufillment, with 16 year old boy insecurities -- dude, the 10 year old girl is better than you are! -- and that's about it.

Really only one thing stuck with me, this weekish later, and it's something really kinda stupid and throwaway and insider, and maybe I'm even reading in to it something that isn't actually there. In the old 50s Superman TV show, thugs would routinely empty their chambers at Supes, then kind of stare in disbelief, then throw the empty gun at him. Christ, what can THAT do?

But there's this little eensy bit in one of the big fights where Hit Girl runs out of ammo, and she kind of stares at the gun in disbelief, then she throws it at her attacker. A absolute perfect reversal of that moment. Like I said: I have no idea if that was even intended -- it's an obvious enough bit of business that didn't have to be inspired by Superman, but I'm going to keep believing it was intentional, because I really really liked that.

So, yeah, I'll give KICK-ASS a GOOD while I was watching it, but only an OK days after the fact (hows that for being an inconsistent reviewer?)

(Also: Aside to Millar [yeah, and Bendis, and anyone else publishing an Icon book] -- given that "Icon" is *effectively* self-publishing, can y'all take a little personal responsibility on your Final Order Cut-off notifications? It is EXTRAORDINARILY TIRESOME to place your "final" orders for KICK-ASS 2 #2 week after week after week (or the latest POWERS, etc.) Please please please don't put a book on FOC unless you're SURE you're ready to go to press. Anything else makes you look bad, and turns us into liars when we start telling customers "yeah, three weeks. Er, no, three weeks now. Um, no, three weeks NOW" Thanks!)

(Also? 4+ months between issues? Not good)

SCOTT PILGRIM VERSUS THE WORLD:  Walking into this one I expected very little. For the most part I find Michael Cera extraordinarily uninteresting as an actor, for example. Plus, I was pretty concerned that you could cram 6 books into a single movie, and have it work well (or at all)

And yet, I liked the film, in certain ways, even better than the book -- Knives, for example, is pretty fully realized in the film in a way I didn't really think she was in the comic; and I got a stronger sense of specific time and place, and I thought the music was very effective in the film.

Even Cera, I thought, showed some relative "range".

At the end, I told Tzipora that she might even like it (I dunno how the video game stuff would go over for her, though), which is always the Big Move. This strikes me, maybe, as one of those films that is going to to be a "cult classic", like, dunno, BIG LEBOWSKI or something. (Unless the video game stuff dates it out too much)

Either way, I enjoyed it immensely -- VERY GOOD.

OK, that's me warmed up (well, still warming up, aren't I?) -- comics later in the week, and, here's hoping for twice-weekly for at least the next 3-4 months...

What did YOU think?

-B

Wait, What? Ep. 28: Good Old Boys

Photobucket Ah, yes. The podcast. You haven't forgotten about us, have you?

Believe it or not, we haven't, either. My new method of allowing the podcast to upload to iTunes before creating an entry here on the SavCrit, however, has led to a bit of lag on my part, for which I apologize.  We hope to make it up to you in the coming week.

In fact, in this very entry, we're giving you both installments of Episode 28--our comic-free prologue, in which Graeme and I talk They Might Be Giants, Randy Newman, and the British TV comedy triumvirate of The IT Crowd, Father Ted, and Brass Eye; and Episode 28 proper, where we discuss at length books like Iron Man #500.1, Power Man and Iron Fist #1, Wolverine #5 and 5.1, and Chris Roberson's work on Superman:Grounded and Superman/Batman.

Both installments are up on iTunes now, but if you'd rather hear them here, we would be delighted:

The Comics-Free Prologue to Episode 28!

Wait, What, Ep. 28: The Comics-Filled Podcast!

So, you know.  Hooray for content, right?  With luck and a certain amount of steely determination on my part, we should also have the lengthy Ep. 29, separated into satisfying less-daunting chunks, also ready for you here this week.

We hope you enjoy 'em and, as always, thanks for listening!

Arriving 3/2/11

May I say: Good Riddance February! I'm a week now done with cigarettes, and my brainpower seems to be slowly coming back -- I'm virtually certain that reviews will resume tomorrow.

Here's what's coming this week, below the cut;

5 RONIN #1 (OF 5) ANGEL ILLYRIA #4 (OF 4) ANNIHILATORS #1 (OF 4) GARNER VAR ARCHIE #618 ARCHIE & FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST #3 ASTONISHING THOR #3 (OF 5) AVENGERS ACADEMY #10 AXE COP BAD GUY EARTH #1 (OF 3) AZRAEL #18 BATMAN BEYOND #3 BATMAN CONFIDENTIAL #54 BATMAN STREETS OF GOTHAM #20 BODYSNATCHERS #1 (OF 6) BOYS #52 BRIGHTEST DAY #21 CAPTAIN AMERICA AND FALCON #1 CAPTAIN AMERICA HAIL HYDRA #3 (OF 5) CARBON GREY #1 CHEW #17 CHIP N DALE RESCUE RANGERS #4 DAKEN DARK WOLVERINE #6 DAOMU #2 DARKNESS #90 DARKWING DUCK ANNUAL #1 DC COMICS PRESENTS SUPERMAN DOOMSDAY #1 DC UNIVERSE ONLINE LEGENDS #3 DEADPOOL #32 POINT ONE DEAN KOONTZ FRANKENSTEIN PRODIGAL SON VOL 2 #4 DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP #20 (OF 24) EMMA #1 (OF 5) FIRST WAVE #6 (OF 6) FORMIC WARS BURNING EARTH #2 (OF 7) FREEDOM FIGHTERS #7 GEORGE RR MARTINS DOORWAYS #4 (OF 4) GFT MYTHS & LEGENDS #2 GI JOE INFESTATION #1 (OF 2) GIANT SIZE ATOM #1 GREEN LANTERN #63 (WAR OF GL) GRIMM FAIRY TALES #56 HERCULIAN #1 HEROES FOR HIRE #4 HOUSE OF MYSTERY #35 INCOGNITO BAD INFLUENCES #4 INTREPIDS #1 IRREDEEMABLE #23 JOE THE BARBARIAN #8 (OF 8) (RES) JOHN BYRNE NEXT MEN #4 JONAH HEX #65 JURASSIC PARK DEVILS IN THE DESERT #2 (OF 4) LENORE VOLUME II #1 REISSUE LENORE VOLUME II #2 LIFE WITH ARCHIE MARRIED LIFE #8 LOCKE & KEY KEYS TO THE KINGDOM #5 (OF 6) LOONEY TUNES #196 LOVE AND CAPES EVER AFTER #2 MARVEL ZOMBIES SUPREME #1 (OF 5) ONE #3 (OF 5) OVERSTREET COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE #1 OZ PRIMER POWERS #7 RED SONJA #55 ROUTE DES MAISONS ROUGES #3 (OF 4) SCOOBY DOO WHERE ARE YOU #7 SECRET SIX #31 SECRET WARRIORS #25 SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #222 STAND NO MANS LAND #2 (OF 5) SWEET TOOTH #19 THUNDERBOLTS #154 TICK NEW SERIES #8 ULTIMATE COMICS CAPTAIN AMERICA #3 (OF 4) UNCLE SCROOGE #401 USAGI YOJIMBO #135 WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #9 WITCHFINDER LOST & GONE FOREVER #2 (OF 5) WOLVERINE BEST THERE IS #4 WOLVERINE HERCULES MYTHS MONSTERS AND MUTANTS #1 (OF 4) WORLD OF WARCRAFT CURSE OF THE WORGEN #4 (OF 5) WULF #1 X-FACTOR #216

Books / Mags / Stuff AN ELEGY FOR AMELIA JOHNSON HC BATMAN BEYOND HUSH BEYOND TP BATMAN TIME AND THE BATMAN HC BILLY BATSON MAGIC SHAZAM MR MIND OVER MATTER TP BINKY GN VOL 01 SPACE CAT CHI SWEET HOME GN VOL 05 CLASSIC DAN DARE HC VOL 13 TRIP TO TROUBLE (RES) DARK TOWER TREACHERY TP DC UNIVERSE ALL STAR SUPERMAN SPEC ED DVD DUNGEONS & DRAGONS FORGOTTEN REALMS TP VOL 01 ESSENTIAL X-MEN TP VOL 02 NEW ED HELLBLAZER TP VOL 01 ORIGINAL SINS NEW ED HEXED TP LEWIS & CLARK GN MAD MAGAZINE #508 MARVELMAN FAMILYS FINEST PREM HC ANGLO DM VAR NAOKI URASAWA 20TH CENTURY BOYS GN VOL 13 POPEYE HC VOL 01 BEST COMIC STORIES BUD SAGENDORF POPEYE HC VOL 05 WHAS A JEEP PREVIEWS #270 MARCH 2011 SIDE B GN (O/A) SMURFS GN VOL 05 THE SMURFS AND THE EGG SPIDER-MAN GRIM HUNT TP STAR TREK CAPTAINS LOG TP VOL 01 SUPERPATRIOT AMERICAS FIGHTING FORCE TP TAKIO GN HC THANOS IMPERATIVE HC THOR FIRST THUNDER TP THOR TALES OF ASGARD TP KIRBY DM VAR VAMPIRELLA MASTERS SERIES TP VOL 03 MARK MILLAR VIDEO WATCHDOG #161 WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 YEAR TWO WOLVERINE WOLVERINE GOES TO HELL PREM HC

What looks good to YOU?

-B

Arriving 2/23/11

I can't concentrate properly -- I had my final cigarette yesterday. Everything is slightly askew. Gr. I hate feeling like this. Here's what's shipping this week, below the cut:

ACTION COMICS #898 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #655 BIG AMERICAN VAMPIRE #12 ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST #216 ASTONISHING X-MEN #36 ATOMIC ROBO DEADLY ART OF SCIENCE #4 (OF 5) AVENGERS #10 BART SIMPSON COMICS #58 BETTY & VERONICA #252 BLACK TERROR #14 CAPTAIN AMERICA #615 CARTOON NETWORK ACTION PACK #57 CAVEWOMAN HUNT #2 CROSSED PSYCHOPATH #1 (OF 6) DC COMICS PRESENTS BATMAN CONSPIRACY #1 DEADPOOL #33 DEADPOOL CORPS #11 DEADPOOL TEAM-UP #884 DEAN KOONTZ FRANKENSTEIN PRODIGAL SON VOL 2 #3 DETECTIVE COMICS #874 DOCTOR SOLAR MAN OF ATOM #5 DRACULA COMPANY OF MONSTERS #7 FALLEN ANGEL RETURN OF THE SON #2 (OF 4) FANTASTIC FOUR #588 THREE FEEDING GROUND #4 (OF 6) GOTHAM CITY SIRENS #20 GREEN ARROW #9 (BRIGHTEST DAY) GREEN HORNET BLOOD TIES #4 INCORRUPTIBLE #15 INCREDIBLE HULKS #623 INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #501 IRON MAN 2.0 #1 IRON MAN THOR #4 (OF 4) JERICHO SEASON 3 #4 (OF 6) JLA THE 99 #5 (OF 6) JUSTICE LEAGUE GENERATION LOST #20 (BRIGHTEST DAY) JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #48 KILL SHAKESPEARE #9 (OF 12) KING CONAN SCARLET CITADEL #1 KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #171 KULL THE HATE WITCH #4 (OF 4) LADY DEATH (ONGOING) #2 METALOCALYPSE DETHKLOK #3 (OF 3) MISSION #1 MORNING GLORIES #7 (NOTE PRICE) NAMOR FIRST MUTANT #7 NEW MUTANTS #22 AGEX NEW YORK FIVE #2 (OF 4) ORSON SCOTT CARDS SPEAKER FOR DEAD #2 (OF 5) POWER GIRL #21 POWER MAN AND IRON FIST #2 (OF 5) PUNISHER IN BLOOD #4 (OF 5) RPM #3 (OF 4) SAVAGE DRAGON #169 SCALPED #46 SECRET AVENGERS #10 SIXTH GUN #9 SKULLKICKERS #6 SPAWN #203 (RES) SPAWN ARCHITECTS OF FEAR (ONE SHOT) (RES) SPIDER-MAN #11 SPIKE #5 (OF 8) STAN LEE TRAVELER #4 STAR TREK INFESTATION #2 (OF 2) STAR WARS DARTH VADER & LOST COMMAND #2 (OF 5) STAR WARS LEGACY WAR #3 (OF 6) TEEN TITANS #92 TERRY MOORES ECHO #28 THOR #620 TRUE BLOOD TAINTED LOVE #1 TURF #4 ULTIMATE COMICS DOOM #3 (OF 4) ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #154 DOSM UNCANNY X-MEN #533 WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #8 WALT DISNEYS COMICS & STORIES #716 WARRIORS THREE #4 (OF 4) WHO IS JAKE ELLIS? #2 (NOTE PRICE) X-23 #6 X-MEN #8 X-MEN LEGACY #245 AGEX X-MEN TO SERVE AND PROTECT #4 (OF 4)

Books / Mags / Stuff HEAVY METAL SPRING 2011 7 BILLION NEEDLES GN VOL 03 ASTONISHING X-MEN TP VOL 06 EXOGENETIC CHRONICLES OF KULL TP VOL 04 BLOOD OF KINGS OTHER STORIES EERIE ARCHIVES HC VOL 06 FREAKANGELS TP VOL 05 HELLBLAZER PANDEMONIUM TP JOHN CARTER OF MARS WARLORD OF MARS TP JUSTICE LEAGUE THE RISE AND FALL HC LITTLE LULU GIANT SIZE TP VOL 03 NAOKI URASAWA 20TH CENTURY BOYS GN VOL 13 OUTLAW TERRITORY GN VOL 02 SCALPED TP VOL 07 REZ BLUES SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY HC VOL 02 SHOWCASE PRESENTS JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA TP VOL 05 TERM LIFE GN

-B

ComicsPRO '11: Hibbs' Last Year

There have, over the years, been several attempts to build a comics retailer organization. There was PACER, there was the DLG, there was one more back in the day whose acronym I'm blanking on. The main reason we've succeeded, I think, is because of the astonishingly hard work of Amanda Emmert, who does so much insanely detailed and strong work behind the scenes, and without whom this would have been another one of those Noble Failures.

I also think that ComicsPRO had a certain amount of cachet coming from that the original founders included <<booming voice>> BRIAN HIBBS, and also <<booming voice>> JOE FIELD. Joe's the other guy who might run neck in neck with me on the "celebrity retailer" side because Joe, of course, invented Free Comic Book Day.

Its a little hard for me to write about this without sounding like a totally arrogant douchebag, but I really do think that "Hey, it's the guy who sued Marvel and won" coupled with "It's the creator of FCBD" got a number of both retailers and vendors to take the organization a whole lot more seriously than they might have otherwise.

But, like I said, it was really Amanda who did most of the hard work.

Anyway, in the original charter we wrote we put in term limits for Board positions, because it does no one any good to have calcified leadership, but somewhere between years one and two, because the membership hadn't yet grown to the point of the organization being self-sustaining, it suddenly started seeming like there weren't going to be enough people to step up to leadership positions, and that it was much more sensible to remove the Term Limits provision... otherwise we might not HAVE a Board.

Then what started happening was that it became fairly clear to me that incumbents, pretty much, can't be voted out of office. It's not that other smart retailers aren't willing to step into leadership positions, but that being an incumbent pretty much means you win because everyone is familiar with you.

You can double this problem for me, personally.

If I chose to, I've little doubt I could stay on the Board until I die, who is going to vote off <<booming voice>> BRIAN HIBBS?

Well, they probably should, actually -- I'm what is politely known as a "loose cannon". Hell, I've nearly sank things for the Org, single handedly, at least twice (and maybe more) because I just go off and do my thing, and I don't play all that well with others. The way I fucked up with my review of Superman Earth One is your prime public example.

As I say, I could stay on the Board forever, as the bylaws are written, and I'm certain I'd keep getting the votes, but I also think that we've got a perception problem among certain prospective members that the org is "controlled" by "the California Elites", and, even without this (wrong!) perspective, I think that just generally having a constantly refreshing leadership is the way to go.

My current term will be up at the end of the 2012 annual meeting, so I'm announcing now that I will not be running for the Board next year. I think I've achieved the goals that I set out to accomplish -- the organization is now truly viable and self-sustaining and there is literally no chance that its going to go away like many of the other Noble Failures of orgs past.

I'm announcing this an entire year before the next set of elections so that people have enough time to actually think if they want to step up to join the leadership; to plan, and campaign. Historically, we start looking for new prospective Board members like 2-3 months before the elections, but I want people to have enough time to really weigh their choices and options.

ComicsPRO probably needed <<booming voice>> BRIAN HIBBS to get established, to get going, to get cemented in people's mind that this was real and true and viable, but I think it is time to bring in some fresh voices and fresh visions, and so this will be my last year on the Board. ComicsPRO doesn't need me any more, and that, in a way, is the best sign to me that we were right all of those years ago for the need and the power of a retailer trade organization. If it can survive (and thrive!) without me in a leadership role, then we've really and truly done it.

This doesn't mean that I might not want to come back some day -- it may be that in 2014 I get super itchy and decide to run again, but for at least two years I'm going to step back and let someone else do all of the hard work.

Like  Hector Godfrey says to Seymour at the end of WATCHMEN, "I leave it entirely in your hands"

Long live ComicsPRO!

-B

ComicsPRO '11: Bonfire

One of the last bigger observations I want to make is that, regardless of whether or not you think that the Direct Market, as currently constituted, is doing a good job or a lousy job at being the stewards, "geek culture" really is the Ground Zero for culture-at-large. And the DM environment is the incubator of that "geek culture". For decades, really, we've begged and pleaded to be taken seriously by the world at large. One of my go-to stories has always been that, 10-ish years ago, the quickest visual short-hand to show emotional or intellectual retardation in an adult was to show them with a rolled up comic in their backpocket. "Please please love us!" we geeks and nerds and losers called and cajoled, and a lot of us ended up growing up and taking over entertainment, and, you know what? They love us now.

Steve Rotterdam made the observation last weekend that something like 20% of global box office is now generated from, or informed by, comic book culture. I can't find any specific link or something to back that assertion up, but it certainly sounds right to me -- the Geek Shall Inherit The Earth.

The difference, as I've said many many times, between the Mass Market retailer and the DM is that we're just another category to "them", but that the DM actually both gives a fuck about, AND actually understands our customers -- we kind of have to, because we fold if we don't.

There's a crazy power in specialty markets, in what I call "tastemaker" environments. Rotterdam calls them "firestarters" instead, but that's pretty much six-of-one/half-dozen-of-the-other. The fact that we DON'T have a centralized buyer controlling our 2400-ish venues, that things sometimes are hard-to-impossible to do because we constantly have to "herd cats" of a whole lot of independently minded people, this is a strength, not a weakness. The "DM" will never declare bankruptcy and close 1/3 of its outlets in a monolithic block like how Border's has just announced. We may have 2400 problems, but we also have 2400 really smart people working their hearts out to try to solve those problems.

I've named checked Steve Rotterdam twice now, and that's because I think one of the smartest presentations I saw last week was on Steve (and Ed Catto's) new venture: Bonfire.

The basic idea of Bonfire is that major brands and major advertisers WANT to connect to "geek culture", but that these big companies don't really "get" us in any kind of a intuitive way. Taking a bottle of soda and throwing a cape on it doesn't actually "connect" to us in any kind of an authentic way. There's a tremendous amount of possibilities that can be had, but someone who "speaks the lingua franca" needs to working as an intermediary. I don't know how to talk to a soda company, they don't know how to talk to me. That's what something like Bonfire is for -- to connect the two.

As Tastemakers, I think of someone like Neil Gaiman. Neil is a very talented writer. But there are a lot of very talented writers out there. One of the reasons, beyond just pure talent, that Neil's career took the trajectory that it did was precisely because of stores like my own that got squarely behind his creative output and proselytized it to our customers. I have no doubt that Neil would still be a successful creator if there wasn't a Comix Experience, but I think that, at least, we (and scores of stores like mine!) helped strongly to move him up to the next chessboard.

WE are the Dreamers of the Dream; WE are the Makers of the Music, as Mr. Wonka said.

I don't really want to step on Steve's Elevator Pitch (because he's going to deliver it way better than I ever could), but there's immense possibilities in bringing in money from outside our market, and molding it so that it fits our market without us giving up anything whatsoever. The 3/4 formed notion would be something like strongly branded event that is sincere in connecting creators to stores and consumers and finding sponsors to underwrite those events, and for them to draft along our winds.

Picture 10-12 stores all across the country having a simultaneous signing with 10-12 upcoming creators one night. You create a catchy catch-phrase for the overall venture, and you line up a sponsor or three to, say, provide refreshments, cover all travel and promotional expenses, and to do NATIONAL ADVERTISING for the event as a whole. Trying to do something like this purely within comics would almost never happen because so few of us have the kinds of resources it would take to mount this in the right way -- but bring in like a high-end vodka company  or something like that that's looking to create authentic awareness of their product, and you can do something of real needle-moving significance on what is probably less than .01% of their annual marketing budget, and which will have better, more direct results.

That kind of thing is really the lowest of the low hanging fruit when we have this amazing network of passionate, independent stores. We just need someone to connect the dots.

Steve's left what I assume is a six-figure salary to try and  create this start-up, and while I never directly asked him the question, I strongly suspect it would have been a significantly harder decision to make if it hadn't been for the basic infrastructure that the very existence of ComicsPRO creates.

People ask a lot "yes, but what does ComicsPRO *do* for me?", and it's really hard to communicate that the basic overall professionalism of comics retail has been improved by the very existence of a retailer trade organization. ComicsPRO can't "take credit" for, say,  Street Dates, but I firmly believe that if there wasn't a ComicsPRO, we'd still be saying "Man, wouldn't it be nice if our partners trusted enough to ship us comics so we didn't have that Wednesday AM race?"

There are lots and lots of plans and programs and things coming -- things that I can't talk about because it is for our vendors to announce their own plans -- things that I think that ComicsPRO validates and facilitates because we retailers are finally getting our shit together and collectivizing our strengths. This is powerful stuff.

Steve and Ed may come along in a minute or two to tell me I'm nuts, but I don't think that will happen for the same reason that the ComicsPRO meeting was a significant phase of Bonfire's launch -- it is easier to identify opportunities with a group of like-minded people than it is to try and contact each individual participant individually.

I have one more ComicsPRO '11 post, but that's going to come tomorrow.

-B